It’s Deja vu all over again. The last installment of my first (but hopefully not the last) meeting with Andreas Deja is here. Hear his thoughts on his own work, as well as his friendship with animation legend Milt Kahl.
CORRECTION: At the end I say meant to say, “This conlcudes Part Three,” not part Two. Andreas’ German threw me off my game.
Get it here: Show 3: Andreas Deja, Part Three
(16MB, 23:19 minutes)
Continue for Show Notes…
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Andreas Deja, Part Three Show Notes
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 May 23, 2005
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Theme song by DJ Sweettooth
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0:48
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Welcome
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1:05
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Hanging out with Milt Kahl
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The Spinnaker Restaurant in Sausalito
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The Black Cauldron
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Ken Anderson
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Bill Peet
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The Sword in the Stone
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5:00
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Bill Tytla
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UPA
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5:38
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Ollie Johnston - Animate Feelings
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Being critical of your own work
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7:35
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The Prince & the Pauper
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Cinderella
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Ward Kimball
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Frank Thomas
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Studying Animation
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Tex Avery
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Tom & Jerry
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Favorite Animation
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Sleeping Beauty The Prince & King Hubert |
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The Rescuers Medusa |
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Frank Thomas
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German message
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12:40
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Feedback
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Leave a comment on the site
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Email The Animation Podcast
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Leave a voice message
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(206) 666-ANM8 (2668)
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Voice messages
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Ones and Twos
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Training Program
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Music on the show
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Theme Song - DJ Sweettooth a.k.a. Joe Moshier
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Background music - Rex Lee from Singapore
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Animators - send me your music
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Thanks for voting
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This has been a great series, I can’t wait to hear what will follow.
Thanks again for putting this together.
J.
Quality sounds great! Much more audible (for me at least).
Do major studios still have the kind of training programs Deja described?
Thanks for checking the audio Jim.
As far as training programs go, I can’t speak with much authority. On most Disney films there are a handful of spots called Animating Assistants. These are beginning, yet qualified animators who are paired with a Supervising Animator for mentorship. Animating Assistants work on tests as well as actual production scenes. Generally, by the end of the film these people are promoted to the position of Animator. I imagine most studios have a system similar to this.
In the case of someone who is really good, most studios will try to accomodate bringing that person on, even if they officially aren’t hiring. This is more for someone who is qualified to jump right in to production.
As far as I know, there isn’t a specific time of the year when training programs or interships happen at different studios. It’s more reliant on when productions will need trained animators.
If anyone knows of training opportunities, share them here. I’m sure there are many people who would be interested in that information.
-Clay
Great show!
You may wonder what Andreas was talking about at the end.
Basically, he said that he’ll be in his hometown (Dinslaken, Germany) in october to help support a Disney Festival there, celebrating his 25th anniversary at Disney.
He’ll be giving a drawing/animation class for children.
Those who are interested should look for infos on the web, he says.
I found this link, (in German)
http://www.kulturkreis-dinslaken.de/
Thanks Stef! Even though I had no idea what he was saying, I thought it would be fun, especially for his fans back home.
Since my motherlanguage Dutch is related to German, I could understand the most important stuff, but still thanks for the translation! I’ll keep this in mind, go there, and hopefully I’ll catch a glimps of him. There aren’t many of these kind of opportunities for us peeps on the continent, so I don’t want to miss it.
- Benjamin
thanks for this wonderful chat of animation,
its hard to finde good matirial on the web,
but this i would say is one of the best i had found.
sorry if i have put some mistake ,my motherlanguageis spanish i live in Uruguay , a small country in south america.
best wishes for this wonderful site
joaquin
Yeah it’s definitely cool to hear him talking in German.
Plus I didn’t know about those Disney Weeks before. If I can I’ll go there and check it out.
So, thanks again for putting all this together.
stef
Loving the podcasts!
Just a minor tech note - the latest podcast (part 3) does not seem to be attached to the RSS feed, like the previous ones were. The ‘Download’ link doesn’t show up in my NewNewsWire.
No biggie, just thought you’d like to know (from a lazy guy who has to visit the site to get it!).
stef: I guess it’s just a one-time thing, because he’s been at Disney for 25 years. So it’s definitly an opportunity we shouldn’t miss!
- Benjamin
Thanks Warren. I’ve never used NNW to download a Podcast. I’ll look into it. It seems to work fine with iPodderX, so I’m not sure what’s going on.
Great interview. I realy enjoyed listening to this interview.
Cheers!
Again, very good show! and the audio quality is getting better, nice job Clay!
I have a few suggestions for your next shows, it would be great if you could talk with them, but don’t worry if you couldn’t, i’ll still be checking your site everyday
These are people that I assume you should know or at least met, but I could be wrong,
Mark Henn
Glen Keane
Ron Clements
Eric Goldberg
Nik Ranieri
John Musker
And one more suggestion, for your next shows, I was wondering if you could get a little more specific about certain shots, you know, every film has some shots that are animated superb and you always remember those when you think of that film ( like Baloo’s scratching his back with the tree in The Jungle Book or Prince John’s getting rubbed sequence in the Robin Hood) So maybe you could pick a few shots and get into details of how they went about animating that shot (ie. The idea, inspiration, the fight with the director, etc.)
..just an idea
thanks!
-Kaveh
Great list Kaveh! But there are just so many great animators (James Baxter comes in mind) and directors (Mike Gabriel) and storymen and… that could be interviewed. Even if it’s somebody I don’t know, I’m sure it’ll be inspirational, at least for me.
Heh, I just realised this already is my third reply to this podcast, and I haven’t even thanked you for how great it was, Clay! So thank you and congrats! I’m superexcited about the ones that are coming, no matter who it is about. Any hints
? And when do you think the next one will be done? And when can we expect the one devoted to Joe Grant? Can’t wait!
- Benjamin
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I’ve already interviewed one of the people you mentioned, so it looks like we’re thinking along the same lines. Believe me, my wishlist for guests is as long as my arm. This could be a full time job - except for the fact that it’s a non-paying hobby.
I made the mistake once of saying when I would have a show out and ended up killing myself to meet that deadline. They take me quite a long time to put together. I just don’t have the time to commit to any schedule, but I’m determined to work on these whenever I can.
Don’t worry, I won’t forget about Joe.
just finished show #3 and it’s really amazing! thanks so much for this podcast, i’m totally excited about the upcoming shows and artists.
since i live in germany i’m going to try to meet andreas at this little disney festival in his hometown, although it’s pretty much at the other end of the country;) i have met him once here in stuttgart and he was great, so i hope i get the chance to talk with him some more …
maybe we meet there, stef and benjamin, it sure would be fun!
so again thanks a lot clay, keep up the good work,
*thomas
Hi I think it wonderfull what you are doing. Right now I am working as a video game animamator, And you really inspire me, to go on. And its fun to hear that the even the top animators arn’t saticfied with their shots. So I am not the only one. Thank you for your wonderfull inspiration.
/kling klong
Thanks Thomas and Mr. Kling, or is it Klong?
Either way, it’s good to know that the podcast is producing what I had hoped - inspiration. There can never be enough of that!
-Clay
Another winner, Clay! It’s very inspiring to hear Andreas talk about scenes that he loves to watch over and over as well as the ones that he was particularly proud of. To get to hear this side of an animator, especially one as esteemed as he is, is very fascinating. Thanks again for devoting your time into this project, Clay. I completely understand how much blogging (and podcasting for you) can eat into your precious time. But you are definitely doing a great job with it. Patient for the next one, I will be. (Yoda-speak there. Just had to do it.)
Thanks Ward.
Yep, it’s hard to keep up. Of course, the job (the real one) has got to come first, so I appreciate the patience - from everybody, really. I know people would love it if I just churned these out, but I do want to do it right. (There is no try, right Yoda?)
-Clay
In your broadcast Andreas Deja part two, Andreas Deja told that he was going to be in Germany in october.
I am working as an animator in Austria and wanted to know when and where Andreas Deja will be in Germany, so I can plan to go meet him.
Thanks!
Gill,
Read Stef’s comment above for a link to a German site that has more information. That’s the most I know about it.
-Clay
Hello Clay! Great show! I was Andreas Deja’s assistant on Jafar and on Scar.
The intensity in which he works was amazing… as well as his never ending enthusiasm for his work. When we’d be nearing a deadline, he’d have an incredible workload yet he was always full of energy. His rough drawings had such energy but wonder attention to detail in the expressions of his characters. In such simple shapes he would pose the characters and they would be full of expression! His rough drawings are fantastic pieces of art. It was a great experience working for him, I’m glad I could be part of his team and be part of Disney history. Besides that, he has such a great sense of humor.
John-
You’re fortunate to have worked with him. The closest I ever got (so far) was on Fantasia 2000. He animated the shot right before one of mine, in the ‘Rhapsody in Blue’ sequence. John dancing with the monkey at the peanut stand was his, and then I did them walking in to the pet shop. That was my first official shot ever. Just knowing the first frame of my shot connected to the last of his was daunting. Then we actually had to meet and talk about the hookup. Man, I was so thrilled and scared but as we can all hear, he’s one of the nicest and most enthusiastic people you’ll ever meet.
Thanks for chiming in John!
-Clay
I’ve just listened to the whole Andreas Deja series and it was very interesting. Great work.
Oh noooooo… ! October! I´m too late (for the festival Andreas mentioned) - would have gone for sure!
Again, thanks Clay for another AAA podcast!
wow that was a great interview. Does anyone know how i can contact Andreas ? I’m studying animation and want to ask him a few things and hopefully get a few tips.
Hey, Clay.
Thank you for this website. It is good to see that people still want to hear from the “Hand Drawn Animations Magicians” and they are there to talk to us.
Congratulations!
we definatley need a show on the nine old men…
andreas is ready himself, i can hardly wait….
im a great fan of andreas deja…thank you for having him on the show…
he is such a great source of animation greatness…
continue with the good podcasts